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		<title>Comment on How Jester Sachs Would Lead the World Bank by On Job Applications…. &#171; The side room</title>
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		<dc:creator>On Job Applications…. &#171; The side room</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 18:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] P.S. By the way, an alternative, humorous, version of Jeffrey Sachs’ “job application” can be found here. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on How Jester Sachs Would Lead the World Bank by Suvojit</title>
		<link>http://ict4djester.org/blog/?p=362#comment-6389</link>
		<dc:creator>Suvojit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 15:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Where Should Your Dollars (and Hours) Go? by David Megginson</title>
		<link>http://ict4djester.org/blog/?p=357#comment-6362</link>
		<dc:creator>David Megginson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 00:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a strong posting -- thanks for giving my brain and my values a healthy evening workout.

Companies don&#039;t like to invest in people because they can&#039;t own the outcome.  If I develop something for an employer, that employer can patent/copyright/whatever the result as intellectual property that stays with the company.  If I develop myself for my employer, I can take the new skills with me whenever I want to leave.

I can imagine two ways to address this problem:

1. Re-legalize indentured servitude in rich countries, so that people become effective slaves until they&#039;ve paid off the cost of any training or other personal development.

2. Make intellectual property laws more sane (or at least less absurdly one-sided), so that investing in patents and copyright doesn&#039;t make such a tempting alternative to human development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a strong posting &#8212; thanks for giving my brain and my values a healthy evening workout.</p>
<p>Companies don&#8217;t like to invest in people because they can&#8217;t own the outcome.  If I develop something for an employer, that employer can patent/copyright/whatever the result as intellectual property that stays with the company.  If I develop myself for my employer, I can take the new skills with me whenever I want to leave.</p>
<p>I can imagine two ways to address this problem:</p>
<p>1. Re-legalize indentured servitude in rich countries, so that people become effective slaves until they&#8217;ve paid off the cost of any training or other personal development.</p>
<p>2. Make intellectual property laws more sane (or at least less absurdly one-sided), so that investing in patents and copyright doesn&#8217;t make such a tempting alternative to human development.</p>
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		<title>Comment on People are the 99%! by Where Should Your Dollars Go? &#171; The ICT4D Jester</title>
		<link>http://ict4djester.org/blog/?p=354#comment-6347</link>
		<dc:creator>Where Should Your Dollars Go? &#171; The ICT4D Jester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 04:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on This Time, It&#8217;s Different! by Timo</title>
		<link>http://ict4djester.org/blog/?p=351#comment-6096</link>
		<dc:creator>Timo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 10:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I currently work as a Protection delegate in Liberia and could totally make a business case for being equipped with an iPad. You see, we have to show photos of children to parents and vice-versa and they are supposed to pick out their own family members. That would be so much better (cooler) with an iPad! See: rock-solid business case.

Of course, considering that we don&#039;t have enough cars, drivers or that we recently didn&#039;t have a single working printer for more than a week, I&#039;m afraid that the holodeck might be available sooner than my employer giving us tablets ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I currently work as a Protection delegate in Liberia and could totally make a business case for being equipped with an iPad. You see, we have to show photos of children to parents and vice-versa and they are supposed to pick out their own family members. That would be so much better (cooler) with an iPad! See: rock-solid business case.</p>
<p>Of course, considering that we don&#8217;t have enough cars, drivers or that we recently didn&#8217;t have a single working printer for more than a week, I&#8217;m afraid that the holodeck might be available sooner than my employer giving us tablets &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on ICT *or* Development, Part 3: The Jester Meets the White African by Kathleen Diga</title>
		<link>http://ict4djester.org/blog/?p=346#comment-6036</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen Diga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An actual developmental debate in ICT4D?  Have we as ICTD researchers / practitioners really come to maturity as a multi-discipline?  
Sarcasm aside, these honest reflections have been what development researchers like myself can see us hitting the coalface of social change.  

In conversations like this, we are on more-or-less the same page in issues of economic development, social progress, civil society change.  
But I still think that we need to keep working it out.  You see, I’m still stuck on how we as ICTD entities are poorly attempting to measure developmental change, can we be honest with ourselves and say that we can measure how we have contributed to the improvement of the lives of the poor?  

In economic development, visible or not, there will be some people who will become poorer at the expense of others.  Today I went to a talk about “crimmigration” – the possible trend of criminality through tough immigration laws around the world (especially the USA) and in the hand that business plays to secure cheap labour of the most disadvantaged.   So as the Jester states, what is that delicate balance of economic development and social progress or equity for the most underserved?  

Well I think we all need to talk out or try to agree on a few principles: 
1)	 Are we attempting to see the reduction of poverty (in all its multiple dimensions?) from the use of ICTD?
2)	Are we attempting to see the reduction of inequality? 
3)	Are we seeing lower numbers in child mortality, an improvement through healthier families, or more student graduating Grade 12 as a result of ICT usage, less environmental degradation – how are we measuring?  
4)	Are we able to see less lives lost?  

In all this talk, let’s not miss the bigger battle and be aligned in such purposes.   As Steve Song mention there is the greater effort to encourage competition to see a drive of affordable prices for all.  The consumer, demand and economic development bit.  But let us also support the poorest of the poor and let them decide for themselves how they wish to improve their lives.   What about supporting governments that promote universal basic income or social grants direct into the hands or bank accounts of all or how to make this process more effective through ICT usage?   Or thinking innovative, better ways to build decent employment for young people, so that they can choose for themselves with pride and their own earnings whether to be part of a digital society?  

If you can’t get these questions to fit in the work that you do in development, might then want to rethink of your own strategy in working towards a better world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An actual developmental debate in ICT4D?  Have we as ICTD researchers / practitioners really come to maturity as a multi-discipline?<br />
Sarcasm aside, these honest reflections have been what development researchers like myself can see us hitting the coalface of social change.  </p>
<p>In conversations like this, we are on more-or-less the same page in issues of economic development, social progress, civil society change.<br />
But I still think that we need to keep working it out.  You see, I’m still stuck on how we as ICTD entities are poorly attempting to measure developmental change, can we be honest with ourselves and say that we can measure how we have contributed to the improvement of the lives of the poor?  </p>
<p>In economic development, visible or not, there will be some people who will become poorer at the expense of others.  Today I went to a talk about “crimmigration” – the possible trend of criminality through tough immigration laws around the world (especially the USA) and in the hand that business plays to secure cheap labour of the most disadvantaged.   So as the Jester states, what is that delicate balance of economic development and social progress or equity for the most underserved?  </p>
<p>Well I think we all need to talk out or try to agree on a few principles:<br />
1)	 Are we attempting to see the reduction of poverty (in all its multiple dimensions?) from the use of ICTD?<br />
2)	Are we attempting to see the reduction of inequality?<br />
3)	Are we seeing lower numbers in child mortality, an improvement through healthier families, or more student graduating Grade 12 as a result of ICT usage, less environmental degradation – how are we measuring?<br />
4)	Are we able to see less lives lost?  </p>
<p>In all this talk, let’s not miss the bigger battle and be aligned in such purposes.   As Steve Song mention there is the greater effort to encourage competition to see a drive of affordable prices for all.  The consumer, demand and economic development bit.  But let us also support the poorest of the poor and let them decide for themselves how they wish to improve their lives.   What about supporting governments that promote universal basic income or social grants direct into the hands or bank accounts of all or how to make this process more effective through ICT usage?   Or thinking innovative, better ways to build decent employment for young people, so that they can choose for themselves with pride and their own earnings whether to be part of a digital society?  </p>
<p>If you can’t get these questions to fit in the work that you do in development, might then want to rethink of your own strategy in working towards a better world.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ICT *or* Development, Part 3: The Jester Meets the White African by The field [formerly known as?] ICT4D is messy &#171; Wait&#8230; What?</title>
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		<dc:creator>The field [formerly known as?] ICT4D is messy &#171; Wait&#8230; What?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Not to be left out, one of the top critics of ICT4D, the ICT4D Jester, pipes in on the stupidity of any acronym that sounds like a Prince Song [I wholeheartedly agree!]. He gets to the political heart of the discussion about ICT4D and ICT4$ in his post ICT *or* Development, Part 3: The Jester Meets the White African: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Not to be left out, one of the top critics of ICT4D, the ICT4D Jester, pipes in on the stupidity of any acronym that sounds like a Prince Song [I wholeheartedly agree!]. He gets to the political heart of the discussion about ICT4D and ICT4$ in his post ICT *or* Development, Part 3: The Jester Meets the White African: [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on ICT *or* Development, Part 3: The Jester Meets the White African by Wayan</title>
		<link>http://ict4djester.org/blog/?p=346#comment-5843</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 12:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see great minds think alike, though I was able to think these points out with a greater economy of words ;)
http://wayan.com/ict4d/challenge-of-defining-ict4d.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see great minds think alike, though I was able to think these points out with a greater economy of words <img src='http://ict4djester.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<a href="http://wayan.com/ict4d/challenge-of-defining-ict4d.html" rel="nofollow">http://wayan.com/ict4d/challenge-of-defining-ict4d.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on ICT *or* Development, Part Deux by j</title>
		<link>http://ict4djester.org/blog/?p=340#comment-5839</link>
		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Related to your last point, read somewhere... 
&quot;...decision fatigue is a major — and hitherto ignored — factor in trapping people in poverty. Because their financial situation forces them to make so many trade-offs, they have less willpower to devote to school, work and other activities that might get them into the middle class...&quot;
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/21/magazine/do-you-suffer-from-decision-fatigue.html?pagewanted=4&amp;ref=psychologyandpsychologists</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related to your last point, read somewhere&#8230;<br />
&#8220;&#8230;decision fatigue is a major — and hitherto ignored — factor in trapping people in poverty. Because their financial situation forces them to make so many trade-offs, they have less willpower to devote to school, work and other activities that might get them into the middle class&#8230;&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/21/magazine/do-you-suffer-from-decision-fatigue.html?pagewanted=4&amp;ref=psychologyandpsychologists" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/21/magazine/do-you-suffer-from-decision-fatigue.html?pagewanted=4&amp;ref=psychologyandpsychologists</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on ICT *or* Development, Part Deux by Avi Solomon</title>
		<link>http://ict4djester.org/blog/?p=340#comment-5821</link>
		<dc:creator>Avi Solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O Jester, I recommend you get straight to the point in your next post. The only way to get someone out of poverty is to help them get a decent job - and THEY have to want it! Case in point - two slum-dwelling cousin brothers both of whom were helped to get jobs at the then (late 70s) Oberoi Sheraton in Bombay. 30 years down the line, one has a fully stocked apartment and kids in college. The other is still a drunken slob in his slum shack. Ambition matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O Jester, I recommend you get straight to the point in your next post. The only way to get someone out of poverty is to help them get a decent job &#8211; and THEY have to want it! Case in point &#8211; two slum-dwelling cousin brothers both of whom were helped to get jobs at the then (late 70s) Oberoi Sheraton in Bombay. 30 years down the line, one has a fully stocked apartment and kids in college. The other is still a drunken slob in his slum shack. Ambition matters.</p>
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